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		<title>Bible Verses</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 03:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve got a ton of Elliot video snippets that I need to get posted. Here&#8217;s a sampling from a few months back when he was just learning his Bible verses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a ton of Elliot video snippets that I need to get posted.  Here&#8217;s a sampling from a few months back when he was just learning his Bible verses.  </p>
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		<title>My only political post</title>
		<link>http://www.jabulanijonny.com/2008/03/my-only-political-post/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will be the only political post you see on this blog.&#160; Los posted about a coworker prank on his blog and it raised a question for me.&#160; I&#8217;m tempted by Obama, I like all the &#34;change&#34; talk.&#160; However, I don&#8217;t agree with his position on abortion and to me that&#8217;s a deal-killer.&#160; There are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be the only political post you see on this blog.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.ragamuffinsoul.com/?p=4733">Los</a> posted about a coworker prank on his blog and it raised a question for me.&nbsp; I&#8217;m tempted by Obama, I like all the &quot;change&quot; talk.&nbsp; However, I don&#8217;t agree with his position on abortion and to me that&#8217;s a deal-killer.&nbsp; There are a lot of people that I respect that have similar religious views as I do, but are supporting Obama.&nbsp; So I&#8217;m asking, <a href="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/03/my-only-politic.html#comments">how do you get past his stance on abortion if you feel that abortion is wrong? </a> </p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s Personal</title>
		<link>http://www.jabulanijonny.com/2007/12/its-personal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 04:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Payne</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Culture]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look, I&#8217;m a Christian; a Christian with obstacles to faith; obstacles to belief, but a Christian none-the-less. Right now I&#8217;m watching a series by Andy Stanley of Northpoint Community Church titled &#8220;It&#8217;s Personal&#8221;. It has really impacted me and where I am in my faith journey right now. In light of everything that has gone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I&#8217;m a Christian; a Christian with obstacles to faith; obstacles to belief, but a Christian none-the-less.  Right now I&#8217;m watching a series by Andy Stanley of Northpoint Community Church titled &#8220;It&#8217;s Personal&#8221;.  It has really impacted me and where I am in my faith journey right now.  In light of everything that has gone on with us and our new baby, this is impacting me where I am.  I challenge you to watch this series.  Start with the first one, then when you&#8217;re ready watch the rest.  They&#8217;re about 45 minutes a piece so you prolly won&#8217;t do it all in one sitting, but I challenge you to check them out.  Below is a link to where you can find all of his messages.  The first in the &#8220;It&#8217;s Personal&#8221; series is titled &#8220;A New Approach&#8221;.  Start with it and follow the next three.  Even with my obstacles, God made himself entirely too personal for me to <a href="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/12/its-personal.html%23comments">deny him</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.northpoint.org/messages">NorthPoint Community Church messages</a></p>
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		<title>Where I Am</title>
		<link>http://www.jabulanijonny.com/2007/10/where-i-am/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[WARNING:&#160;Long post ahead. Below is a post I actually wrote a few days ago that never got posted: Well, my blog has been a bit of a rehash of Elliot’s carepage as of late.&#160;It just came down to the lack of energy in posting about anything other than what was going on; as if there [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">WARNING:&nbsp;Long post<br />
ahead.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Below is a post I actually wrote a few days ago that never got posted:<br /><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>Well, my blog has been a bit of a rehash of Elliot’s<br />
<a href="http://www.carepages.com/ServeCarePage?cpn=BabyPayne&amp;login=true&amp;seed=858398&amp;ClusterNodeID=jb01&amp;tlcx1=chop">carepage</a> as of late.&nbsp;It just came down<br />
to the lack of energy in posting about anything other than what was going on; as<br />
if there really was anything else going on.&nbsp;Beyond that though, it’s been more or less just a statement of<br />
happenings, rather than an introspective look at me and my thoughts.&nbsp;I’ve been challenged by <a href="www.ragamuffinsoul.com">Los</a>’ continued posts<br />
on being real, being authentic.&nbsp;So here<br />
I go…<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This whole situation with Elliot has been a challenge, not<br />
so much physically, and maybe not so much mentally, but more so<br />
spiritually.&nbsp;I kind of touched on it in<br />
this <a href="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/05/neck_deep.html">post</a>, but I’m still plagued by confusion and<br />
frustration.&nbsp;I want to lay it out, HIPAA<br />
and personal privacy be damned.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s just a snapshot of history.&nbsp;I am a Christian.&nbsp;I was raised in church, but drifted away in<br />
college and for several years afterward.&nbsp;In 2000 I had a true experience of rededication, one so powerful that I<br />
could not write it off as something self cultivated.&nbsp;For about 4 years I was rocking along,<br />
completely sold out in my walk with Christ.&nbsp;I started really getting into Apologetics, the defense of the gospel and<br />
the Christian faith in a logical &amp; philosophical setting.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">During that time I read some of the discourse from atheists<br />
as it relates to their defense of their belief in there not being a God.&nbsp;During that time I read some extremely<br />
logical sounding arguments as to the origin of the Bible and how the Christian<br />
faith could have come about, theoretically speaking.&nbsp;Some of these writings began sounding very<br />
logical to me and it really shook my faith.&nbsp;To the point where I didn’t know if what I believed was a farse or if it<br />
was true, even taking into account my rededication experience and knowing<br />
people who have experienced God’s miraculous intervention.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Slowly, but surely, I regained my faith as I continued to<br />
ponder and work out what salvation meant to me.&nbsp;Unfortunately the byproduct was that it was easy for me to slide back<br />
into the seat of a skeptic.&nbsp;So there’s<br />
my history in a nutshell.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">How does that relate to Elliot?&nbsp;Well for nearly 4 years Sunette and I prayed<br />
for a child, a healthy child, every night.&nbsp;We earnestly sought God for Him to bless us with a healthy baby, and we<br />
couldn’t understand why this prayer was not being answered for us.&nbsp;Just before we were planning to take the<br />
final step, going to South Africa to try IVF, we found out we were pregnant;<br />
and not by any medical procedure we had undergone up to that point.&nbsp;We felt that this was truly an answer to<br />
prayer as it came at the 11<sup>th</sup> hour.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Then we found out about Elliot’s first diagnosis,<br />
Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome.&nbsp;To say<br />
we were crushed is an understatement.&nbsp;We<br />
couldn’t understand why we couldn’t just have a healthy baby like we had prayed<br />
for.&nbsp;We then found out about Elliot’s<br />
secondary diagnosis, a highly restrictive atrial septum, which would affect how<br />
his lungs develop during the pregnancy, and would mean that he would probably<br />
have to have immediate surgery.&nbsp;The<br />
doctor who diagnosed the restricted atrial septum did not paint a very bright<br />
picture of Elliot’s chance of survival.&nbsp;So again we struggled with why this had to happen and we wondered if we<br />
were even going to have a baby that survived.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Fast forward to the birth.&nbsp;Elliot was born and the doctors were ready for the immediate surgery<br />
that was probably going to be needed to fix the restricted atrial septum<br />
defect, before he would need his first surgery for the HLHS.&nbsp;Thankfully Elliot showed no symptoms and<br />
didn’t need the immediate surgery, essentially raising the survival rate from<br />
30% to 90%.&nbsp;He made it through his stage<br />
one repair for the HLHS, but his lungs were definitely affected by the restricted<br />
septum so he has needed oxygen for most of the 2 ½ months he’s been alive.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Upon birth he was also diagnosed with Hypospadias, a birth<br />
defect of the urethra and his male parts.&nbsp;He was also diagnosed with a minor skin disorder, which means he has<br />
extremely sensitive skin.&nbsp;Hence the<br />
blood blister on his foot early on and some additional blistering on his<br />
scar.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So here we are today, and the questions still remain.&nbsp;Elliot is doing fairly well, but we have him<br />
on oxygen 24/7 and he still has to go through the remaining surgeries for the<br />
HLHS.&nbsp;I mean, why with all of these<br />
other issues did he have to have more complications that just seemed to be<br />
adding insult to injury, literally.&nbsp;The<br />
more we have prayed, the more it seems that things don’t get any better,<br />
sometimes it seems that the contrary is true.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Here’s my struggle.&nbsp;How do I reconcile the promises that God makes to His children in the<br />
Bible with what we’ve gone through?&nbsp;When<br />
He says to ask and it will be given to you, or the parable of the neighbor who<br />
knocks and knocks, asking for some bread; and his request is answered, even<br />
reluctantly, but answered because he asked so fervently.&nbsp;Haven’t we asked, with full faith in what God<br />
could do, haven’t we knocked and knocked?&nbsp;When can you ask enough to have the answer that you seek?&nbsp;And surely there has to be some earthly<br />
benefit in knowing God and believing in Him.&nbsp;How do I now defend prayer, or even belief when I have nothing to point<br />
towards to show that God truly listens to those that call on His name?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is my struggle, and I’m no closer to an answer.&nbsp;However, I still find myself believing that<br />
He truly has our best interest at heart, in spite of everything pointing to the<br />
contrary.&nbsp;Through this trial people have<br />
said they’ve been encouraged by our faith.&nbsp;How can that be so?&nbsp;Is it just<br />
that I don’t have the heart to tell them that I can’t even be encouraged by my<br />
faith, to be real?&nbsp;So this is what I’m<br />
doing and here’s where I’ll have to leave it for now.<o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I can’t defend God based on what we’ve been through…but I<br />
will continue to defend God based on what He said in the Bible and how He’s<br />
manifested Himself in others, of which I’ve been a witness.&nbsp;My only hope is that He will understand my<br />
humanness and why I’m having difficulty holding onto faith in light of the<br />
circumstances.&nbsp;The deal is this, I don’t<br />
know what lies ahead, but He does, and I can only pray that Elliot’s life,<br />
whatever it is, will be a positive impact on those that have a chance to<br />
witness it.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also, since I wrote this post, we are now back in the hospital.&nbsp; This time we&#8217;re at Egleston Children&#8217;s Hospital in Atlanta.&nbsp; Elliot was transfered up there on Thursday after a routine visit with his cardiologist.&nbsp; His O2 sats are much lower than they should be right now and they&#8217;re not quite sure what the issue is.&nbsp; They initially sent him to observe for a few days, but have since decided to do a heart cath, which is scheduled for tomorrow.&nbsp; Hopefully that will finally let them know that it&#8217;s not the heart, but the lungs that are the issue.&nbsp; At that point they can begin treating the&nbsp; lungs to hopefully get them to relax.&nbsp; This is just a lingering effect of the restricted atrial septum that Elliot had prior to birth and his Stage 1 HLHS procedure.&nbsp; </p>
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		<title>When is it time to move?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In one of my recent posts I introduced the idea that my wife and I are seriously considering a church change.&#160; We&#8217;ve been going to our current church for between 7-8 years and are very involved.&#160; We&#8217;re most involved on the music side of things.&#160; My wife sings in the choir and I play lead [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one of my recent posts I introduced the idea that my wife and I are seriously considering a church change.&nbsp; We&#8217;ve been going to our current church for between 7-8 years and are very involved.&nbsp; We&#8217;re most involved on the music side of things.&nbsp; My wife sings in the choir and I play lead guitar for the Praise &amp; Worship on Sunday mornings and evenings, as well as leading praise and worship for the youth and the college &amp; career classes on Wednesday.&nbsp; I really enjoy playing in our church&#8217;s band.&nbsp; My mom, who&#8217;s a phenomenal piano and organ player, also plays in the band.&nbsp; Besides us there&#8217;s an incredible piano player, drummer and bassist.&nbsp; So it&#8217;s a 5 piece and we get to rockin&#8217;.&nbsp; In fact here&#8217;s an audio clip that I recorded about two years ago of a choir song that we did called &quot;I&#8217;m Alive&quot;.&nbsp; Give it a couple seconds to load. </p>
<p>A few technical notes, this was done on a Roland VS-1680 about two years ago with everything sub-mixed to 8 tracks and recorded.&nbsp; So whatever sound I was getting from the drums, that&#8217;s what I got.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t like the way the drums sound on here, but not much can be done after the fact.&nbsp; That&#8217;s the blessing and curse of live recording.&nbsp; I love live recording because of the energy that gets captured and I think that this clip translates the energy.&nbsp; For those into audio production, I&#8217;m now focusing completely on mobile recording using a MOTU 896HD 16 tracks at a time into a laptop running Nuendo. Take a listen and we&#8217;ll continue with the discussion.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Oh yeah, that&#8217;s yours truly on the vocals and guitar. </p>
<p><embed width="450" height="50" src="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/my_weblog/files/im_alivemaster_mp3.mp3" controller="true" autoplay="false" loop="false"></embed></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a screen shot of me mixing it in Nuendo.&nbsp; Screenshots are always cool.&nbsp; </p>
<p><a href="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nuendo.jpg"><img border="0" class="image-full" alt="Nuendo" title="Nuendo" src="http://jabulanijonny.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/nuendo.jpg" style="margin: 10px 5px 5px 10px;" /></a></p>
<p>I hope that didn&#8217;t make you cringe too much.&nbsp; So I like playing in our band.&nbsp; We originally came to our church because of the pastor&#8217;s preaching.&nbsp; This guy provides a tremendous amount of insight and wisdom.&nbsp; He basically picks a book of the bible and preaches through it, several verses at a time, providing insight into why this was important and how it relates to God&#8217;s relationship with man and our relationship with him.&nbsp; It was good meaty stuff that was completely different than what we&#8217;d been getting.&nbsp; Now, that seems to be the reason we feel it&#8217;s time for a move.&nbsp; Personally, and I think my wife feels this too, I&#8217;m at a place where I need the relationship side of Christ.&nbsp; I need to know his love for me and how I should live in light of that love.&nbsp; Right now I feel like I go to seminary on Sunday morning and it&#8217;s just wearing me thin.&nbsp; I mean, we&#8217;re going through Ecclesiastes for crying out loud.&nbsp; I&#8217;m losing focus in 5 minutes.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Ok, so there&#8217;s one reason.&nbsp; Another reason is that in the time that we&#8217;ve been there, we haven&#8217;t really bonded with anyone, other than my parents.&nbsp; For some reason we just don&#8217;t click with anyone at the church that is even near our age.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve got some of my close Christian friends that I work with that go to a church that I&#8217;ve heard great things about, from the preaching to the praise.&nbsp; I feel like if I go to a church where I&#8217;ve got something in common with the folks, I&#8217;ll actually be able to develop those relationships that make a church what it is; a body of believers called to uplift Christ and each other.&nbsp; Something like that anyway.</p>
<p>The final reason is that right now, I feel like I&#8217;m going to work when I go to church.&nbsp; Sunday is not a day of rest and Wednesday is a honkin&#8217; killer.&nbsp; The new church we&#8217;re looking at has two Sunday morning services, no sunday night and no wednesday night.&nbsp; In leiu of that they get together in discipleship groups.&nbsp; Now that is something Sunette and I have been itching for.&nbsp; I feel that all in all, the move will help us connect and grow deeper in our walk with Christ, something that has felt a little under served for a while.&nbsp; </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the question&#8230;am I being selfish?&nbsp; Do I want to move for me rather than taking into account whether there&#8217;s still a need in the church for me to be there, for whatever reason?&nbsp; That&#8217;s got me a little perplexed.&nbsp; So, when is it time to change churches?&nbsp; The roots are deep, so it&#8217;ll take a little while to uproot, be I think we&#8217;re ready for the change.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be on vacation from tomorrow until July 20th.&nbsp; I&#8217;m trying to decide whether or not to leave the laptop at home and just take a book.&nbsp; I prolly will, so I&#8217;ll be seeing ya&#8217;ll when we get back.&nbsp; Maybe with some good fishing pictures.&nbsp; Oh dang, that reminds me&#8230;I haven&#8217;t posted about our fly-fishing trip to the Hiwassee River.&nbsp; We&#8217;ll I might just take the time and do that today too.&nbsp; Peace out.</p>
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